I'm with Aude!!
"Saving" yourself for marriage?? Bunk. It's not just men that want to "try before you buy" and I'd never, ever marry a guy with out the "test drive". Hell, I take guys to the nude beach first.
talkin about you guys and gals?
myself and several others have gotten married coz we wanted to get laid.
in alot of cases being quite dissapointed with our "purchase" so to speak.
I'm with Aude!!
"Saving" yourself for marriage?? Bunk. It's not just men that want to "try before you buy" and I'd never, ever marry a guy with out the "test drive". Hell, I take guys to the nude beach first.
i still can't believe it.
she was here for the bbq, we had an awesome time, laughing, her telling stories from our childhoods.
i gave her a hug and told her i loved her before she left.
Thank you all for the comments.
Shelly, I will take some time, just not sure when. Work is keeping my mind off of things, I'm not sure I'm really ready to grieve right now. I'm going to take a few days and visit A&W in the mountains, relax, take in the beautiful surroundings and have the shoulder of a very good friend to cry on.
i found the aug 1, 2009 wt, and the aug 2009 awake in the magazine rack at my work.
i wrote on the cover with a big sharpie, "1-800-why-1914, www.freeminds.org, and www.jehovahs-witnesses.net .
on the inside cover i wrote: "warning: contains cult propaganda" any other suggestions?
I had one dropped off at my work too. They are all anti JW there, and it promptly went in the garbage.
i still can't believe it.
she was here for the bbq, we had an awesome time, laughing, her telling stories from our childhoods.
i gave her a hug and told her i loved her before she left.
Thank you all. There are no words to convey the heartfelt appreciation I feel towards all of you here.
A&W, I was going to call you and ask if I could come down there for a few days to just regroup. I'll have a few days coming to me from work for breavement and I can't think of a better place to spend some time.
You all really mean the world to me.
i still can't believe it.
she was here for the bbq, we had an awesome time, laughing, her telling stories from our childhoods.
i gave her a hug and told her i loved her before she left.
Thank you all for your kind words and thoughts. I'm still numb from all of this. Her husband said she didn't want a funeral, she's prepaid her cremation and burial in our mothers plot. My brother and I talked last night that we need to do something. She knew so many people in the small town we grew up in, I think it would be unfair to her memory to not remember her in some way, it won't be a funeral, but we discussed renting a hall and letting people drop in and share with us their memories of her.
Again, just to be clear, it my step mom did not say it was because of the birthday party, that is what popped into my head when I had to call her. The JW mindset is sometimes hard to get rid of and rears it's ugly head at the worst moments.
i still can't believe it.
she was here for the bbq, we had an awesome time, laughing, her telling stories from our childhoods.
i gave her a hug and told her i loved her before she left.
Thank you all for your kind words and thoughts.
Just to be clear, my mom didn't say it was because of the birthday party, that was my thought when I had to call her with the news. She was very good about everything and the only thing she said was that now she has the hope of the resurrection. It's something we all would have said as a JW.
i still can't believe it.
she was here for the bbq, we had an awesome time, laughing, her telling stories from our childhoods.
i gave her a hug and told her i loved her before she left.
I still can't believe it. She was here for the bbq, we had an awesome time, laughing, her telling stories from our childhoods. I gave her a hug and told her I loved her before she left.
The dog started barking at about 2am, I was in a fog, I was so tired from staying awake all the night before and then a very busy day and night.
I looked out the door and saw two policemen there. I thought "oh crap, I'm in trouble for having a bon fire in the back yard last night". Never ever in my wildest dreams did I think they would tell me my sister was dead. That sort of thing only happens in the movies.
I was numb, just numb, I don't think I really believed them. Her husband was as far as they knew ok, had alot of head lacerations etc, the other driver was air lifted to a hospital in Toronto, several injuries including two broken legs.
We still don't know what happened. We went to the crash site this afternoon after going to the hospital to see my brother in law and staying with him for as long as he needed us to.
There were NO skid marks from either vehicle. My sisters car was on the opposite side of the road in the ditch, the other vechile was on his opposite side, facing the direction my sister was travelling (sorry no good with north south etc).
There was so much debris left there, the whole windshield was left in the ditch, the drivers side window, and pieces of the car were everywhere.
My brother in law was sleeping at the time so he dosen't know what happened, all he remembers is waking up and the car being in the ditch, he looked over at my sister and she was pinned up against the steering wheel and told him she couldn't breathe. He got out of the car and a witness was right there and made him get back in. Someone else got in the back seat behind my sister and held her until the paramedics and police etc came.
She lost vital signs three times, the third time they couldn't bring her back.
I need to talk to the crash investigator tonite, the other police really couldn't tell me what happened.
Do you want to hear the craziest thing out of all of this?? When I had to call my mother and tell her last night all I could think about was her saying that's why we aren't supposed to have birthday parties. Can you believe that would come to mind at a time like that??
I hadn't been a part of my sisters life for so many years because she "left the truth". We had just started getting close after so long, and now she's gone.
my mom knows my position on not being a jw anymore, and we have a pretty good relationship after some rocky patches.
my younger sister is the only one that is still a jw, my older siblings had all left many many years ago, and my younger brother and his family has left now as well.
we have had a few non birithday, birthday parties in the past, no candles on the cake, no singing happy birthday, but just all getting together as a family and having a good time.
Well, I got an email the other day, seems like they can't make it after all. I shouldn't be surprised or disappointed, but I am. It's not the first time she's cancelled like this on me. So much for wanting to be a part of my life and to be included in things regardless of the religion t i(her words).
sigh
On a brighter note, the pork looks and smells amazing. I put it on to smoke about 2am this morning and it's been slowly roasting ever since.
There is no cardboard cookie cutter solution to leaving this cult. Everyone is different, everyone has different circumstances and who are we to judge how someone leaves? Didn't we want to leave the JWs because of how they judge everyone? The gossip, backbiting? I hated listening to that while stuck in a car with a bunch of other people. I hated hearing it at "get togethers", hated feeling judged for everything I did or didn't do.
We have all made a choice to leave, and how to leave.
How many here have been able to get their families out after being labeled an apostate, or weak, or spiritually sick or when DF'd? Very few I'd say. How many have been able to get their familes out by working from the inside? More than those labeled an apostate.
I also agree that it seems like OM's post was not read correctly. Maybe get your facts straight before jumping to conclusions about him serving on JC's. There is nothing wrong with venting and expressing our anger over a situation, but you had the situation wrong from the get go.
Stop judging others for their life choices.
in a local convenience store, the owners have installed an id checker for anyone purchasing alcohol.
they require you to put your id in this machine to determine whether or not you are of legal age.
even if you are 85 years of age, you have to comply or you can't buy a beer!.
What sort of ID is being asked for? Is the information on the ID being kept for any purpose? What is he doing with said information? Is any of it being kept and if so, what security measures has he put in place?
Seems pretty overboard on his part to require obvious seniors to presnt ID.